What is an FTIN on Form 5472?

FTIN defined: what to enter on Form 5472 lines 4b(3) and 8b(3), what to write if you have none, and how it differs from a reference ID.

Amel Ouchene, IRS PTIN holder and CPA Candidate. October 19, 2026, 2 min read

An FTIN is the taxpayer identification number issued by your country of tax residence. In France, for example, it is the 13-digit numéro fiscal shown on your tax notices.

On Form 5472

FTIN or reference ID?

The reference ID number (line 4b(2)) is a different thing: an identifier you create yourself, letters and digits only, no spaces, 50 characters at most. For a foreign-owned LLC, the instructions say you "can" enter one: it is optional, while the FTIN is the identifier the IRS expects.

If you also have an ITIN, it goes on line 4b(1).

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This article is general information about US tax rules for foreign-owned LLCs, not advice for your specific situation. Rules change; check the date above and ask before you file.